They Can’t Keep Good Hobos Down!

23 Mar

What a week it has been, more ups and downs than some fairgrounds can offer! Family and I have sunk into the depths of despair, we have rocketed up to virtually float on the highest cirrus clouds, and we have moved into the weekend with a balanced level of cautious hope in our hearts.

Yet again, good friends have provided us with unreserved support, kindness, encouragement and sincere offers of as much help as they can possibly give. So many people, who we didn’t know and who didn’t know of us before this week, have offered advice, guidance, kindness, information and support. Yes, we live in what can be a very cruel world, but, this week, we re-discovered the good that is also in this world! Good that is probably often smothered by the big selling power of bad news.

Receiving the knock-back from the ECHR sent me scurrying on a mission to find out if we could still take our house Case to the Cour de Cassation. I could not believe that all the fraud, corruption and injustice would win the day. Without doubt, I started this week looking and feeling at least twenty years older than I am! But, when I looked at the utter despair on the drawn, grey faces of Tom and Paul, I knew I had to make an effort to find a way to raise hope.

This is how we have survived the past few years. When one or other of us is down, the others pick up the fallen Hobo! On this occasion we were all down, but it took only one of us to get the ball of hope rolling again and to crank up momentum!

Grandson, of course, was totally oblivious to our very heavy sense of defeat; we ensure that he is always protected from this aspect of what we know as ‘real life’. He is too young to be burdened with such pain, sadness and futility.

After publishing my last blog post, I received so many messages from folks who were genuinely astonished by the fact that the ECHR had accepted the blatant lies issued by the Cour de Cassation Bureau d’Aide. Until the day I draw my last breath I will know that I did submit all documentation required to assess our total global income for Legal Aid. Nothing will change that fact.

One of the messages was sent by Catharine Higginson of SFN (Survive France Network). Catharine kindly invited me to post about our house Case situation in the specific SFN Group where there is an adviser with grounded legal knowledge. My first thought was that s/he might not want to become embroiled in our complex saga! But, I followed Catharine’s advice and posted a brief summary of events covering the years from July 2007 to the day, this year, when we received that shocking news from the ECHR.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained!

I had posted links to my most recently published blog on Hobos In France Forum (HIFF), on Facebook, in the Hobos Facebook Group and on Twitter – my usual practice. Although I didn’t post a link in my SFN summary, I soon discovered that several SFN members were already following my blog; some had subscribed, as long ago as January 2012, to receive notification of new blog posts as and when they are published. Within hours of publishing my new blog post, I was contacted by a wonderful gentleman who offered me access to his subscription to a website offering bona fide legal advice on any matter of law, including French law. My family’s benefactor wishes to remain anonymous, he knows who he is and we will always remain indebted to him.

I gratefully accepted the offer and my first question was submitted to the website experts. Briefly, are we able to have our Case heard at the Cour de Cassation if we pay the (approximately) 4000€ to 6000€ legal fees to our (third) avocat and the specialist Cour de Cassation avocat? The reply was, ‘No.’ We were out of time eight weeks after the Riom Cour d’Appel Judgement was given in December 2009, although that was extended to July 2010, as we discovered this year!

Whatever, the Bureau d’Aide had received the essential documents well before even the July deadline!

The legal expert who answered my questions is a Paris Court Judge. He went on to comment that he could not understand why we were offered opportunity by the Cour de Cassation Bureau d’Aide to re-apply for legal aid in October 2012.

I didn’t go into details, but I did include the fact that the Riom Cour d’Appel Judgement included the statement about recognising the fraud of the sellers, and, further, that the Court stated it had no French law in place to enable the justices to give a Judgement in our favour.

I then asked the Judge if there is a Court that might consider our Case, other than the ECHR?

The reply came back very quickly, yes, the EUCJ will consider our Case.

I returned to the Judge with one last question, are we out of time to take our Case to the EUCJ?

The reply arrived within a few (rather nerve-wracking!) hours. Given the circumstances, ‘No’, he did not believe our Case would be ruled by the EUCJ as being out of time. In my next blog post, I will be able to let folks know what the EUCJ can do about our situation.

So, our Case is going, as swiftly as possible, to the EUCJ in Luxembourg. Voila!

I have much to do, including arranging the retrieval of our file from the ECHR. That mini forest contains all the evidence of the treatment my family and I have been subjected to throughout the (almost) six years that we have lived in France.

In the meantime, RSI, that superbly efficient representative of worst bureaucratic practice, has lost the two S1 forms that we posted (LRAR) at the beginning of this month! In the same envelope, we placed all necessary copy documents, including the two S1 forms and the completed form that is relevant to my RSI issued carte vitale. Tom is legally entitled to ‘piggyback’ on my carte vitale until we move over to CPAM at the end of April. We’re dreading the changeover, I make no bones about that!

Yes, I know, how can we expect better bureaucratic administration, we live in France! Chuckle!

But, one day, they will all realise the fact that they can’t keep good Hobos down!

Now, where is that ‘wink’ Smilie! 😉


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24 responses to “They Can’t Keep Good Hobos Down!

  1. Shelley Ball

    March 23, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    Fingers, toes and everything else crossed here that this time everything goes right for you. Sending lots of love to all of you. xx ❤

    • hobosinfrance

      March 23, 2013 at 8:07 pm

      Thank you very much, Shelley. We did not envisage the EUCJ becoming Plan B! But, it is and we are grabbing it with all hands, 8 hands! Our love to you and the family. xxxx

  2. Helen Devries

    March 23, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    I’m so glad that finally you have come across someone who knows enough to help you…and is willing to do so!

    One more heave!

    • hobosinfrance

      March 23, 2013 at 8:15 pm

      Yes, Helen, our benefactor has certainly pulled out all available stops to obtain the best advice and guidance we can get. When we discovered our expert adviser is a Paris Court Judge, I thought we would hear nothing to our advantage! In the great scheme of things, my faith in the French judicial system has been eroded more than just a tad! But, I was wrong and he was totally up-front and honest when responding to my questions. That was a refreshing change in addition to being hope-inspiring. Thank you, as always, for your support and encouragement. C and menfolk xx

  3. Annmarie Jones

    March 23, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    Good luck guys….just been reading your SFN post…..cannot believe what you have all been subjected too. Sending big hugs and best wishes x

    • hobosinfrance

      March 23, 2013 at 8:48 pm

      Hello Annmarie, thank you for your support, my family and I appreciate it so much. Yes, the entire fiasco is almost unbelievable. At no time did we ever consider that we would spend our first 5 years in France living in a tent! Well, in three tents, to be precise, two of our tents have been destroyed by inclement weather during the years! We have this, possibly final, opportunity to secure justice and we’re going for it! 🙂 Warmest regards, Chrissie and family xx

  4. Perpetua

    March 23, 2013 at 3:20 pm

    Chrissie, I’m so glad to hear that another window of hope has opened for you and your family. Wishing you all the very best for this latest submission and may the abominable RSI find your missing forms soon.

    • hobosinfrance

      March 23, 2013 at 8:54 pm

      Lol! We know RSI will never find Tom’s S1 forms, it’s extremely likely that they have been secreted away in the depths of the darkest archive, in hope that we will disappear forever! I think the ‘Case of the missing S1 forms’ might well conclude our file to be sent to the EUCJ; RSI have not endeared themselves to us over the years! Watch this space! Thank you for your continued, and much appreciated, support. 🙂 xx

  5. Steve

    March 23, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    Damn, I *REALLY* wish I had some way of helping!

    • hobosinfrance

      March 23, 2013 at 8:59 pm

      Hello Steve, it’s lovely to e-see you, thank you very much for your support. You are helping by being there for us. 🙂 Chrissie & lads xx

  6. toroise49

    March 23, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    2013 WILL be a good year, everything is crossed for you xxxx

    • hobosinfrance

      March 23, 2013 at 9:00 pm

      Bless you, Di, and I so hope you are right. Our love to you and your menfolk. Chrissie & Co xxxx

  7. Lavinia Pearce

    March 23, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    Good luck Chrissie!! You truly are a person of tremendous stamina and determination, I would have given up years ago!!

    I do hope Tom is feeling better, at least we have some sunshine at last!!

    Wishing you every success with the latest development.

    Lavinia and Robert

    • hobosinfrance

      March 26, 2013 at 11:14 am

      Hello Lavinia, I’m so sorry for the delay in responding, things have been hectic since I posted! Yes, Tom is feeling much better now, thank you, and the sunshine is helping him. It really has been a long winter! As always, Lavinia, we hope you and Robert, and your family, are keeping well. Thank you so much for your continued support, we feel our supporters, too, have great stamina, you’re still with us after all the years we have been battling through the rather murky French judicial system! Take care, our love to you both. Chrissie and menfolk xx

  8. Sarah

    March 23, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    Funny how forms go conveniently ‘missing’… twice, isn’t it. Still I’m glad you’re in touch with kind experts who can offer practical help. Let’s hope this window of opportunity opens wide and welcomingly for you. 🙂

    There’s no doubt that networking and sites like SFN can be so incredibly helpful. It was great that Catharine could point you in the right direction to link up with the right people.

    • hobosinfrance

      March 26, 2013 at 12:24 pm

      Hi Sarah, sincere apologies for the delay, life became a little more difficult for a brief period this week! But, the issues, created by folks who are not connected with our house Case but who felt justified in judging us, have now been resolved – hopefully! Family and I have received so much support and kindness through the years, we forgot that there are malicious, far from kind and supportive people in this world! Thank goodness they have been few and far between in our experience during the past six years. Regarding RSI, we have been trying to get Tom on my carte vitale (‘piggy-backing’) for years! RSI have surpassed themselves on this occasion, at least they have acknowledged receiving some paperwork, they have previously just ignored our requests and documentation sent! I wonder if this is progress, lol! Yes, Catharine and James Higginson are genuinely wonderful people, we are truly grateful to them and the SFN members who have given us, in effect, this opportunity to move forward to the EUCJ. Thank you for your continued support, Sarah, you are a gem. Chrissie and family xx

  9. Lynn Labrum Harvey

    March 23, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    We are all behind you and yours propping you up with our thoughts and feelings and Il sure in some cases prayers as well. It i great news. And I must say that I personally have found CPAM to be really helpful and efficient in my area. XXXXXXX

    • hobosinfrance

      March 26, 2013 at 11:18 am

      Bless you, Lynn, you are a real stalwart, behind us all the way and constantly supporting and encouraging us. Thank you from the bottoms of our hearts. Chrissie and family xxxx

  10. merewoman

    March 25, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    Keeping my fingers crossed for you all, Chrissie, that there is true daylight and sunshine at the end of your tunnel.

    • hobosinfrance

      March 26, 2013 at 11:26 am

      Phew! It has been a week of such huge ups and downs, I could well have done with one of your wonderful books to help me recover my equilibrium at times! But, I doubt I would have found the time to park myself in a quiet, placid spot to read and enjoy! We’re moving forward with a lot of hope, but we know nothing is guaranteed despite what we know is, or should be considered, a mountain of compelling evidence! Thank you for still being here with us. Love from us all xxxx

  11. browneyes

    March 25, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    Oh Chrissie!! I used to follow you and your dilemma on another forum and then you disappeared!!
    I so wish I could help in some way. I have a small unfurnished “gite” but unfortunately it needs work, otherwise it could be yours instead of a tent!!

    Isn’t it amazing how one “wrong” decision can lead you down a really horrible path!

    I am rooting for you.

    • hobosinfrance

      March 26, 2013 at 12:08 pm

      Hello Browneyes, now I’m intrigued as to who you are – yes, I disappeared overnight, very unfair dismissal but now water under the bridge. As family and I know too well, there always comes a time when moving on becomes the only right direction to take. In our case now, the EUCJ is the right direction, although, as we have learned the hard way, we have hope but our faith in the systems – French judicial and preservation of human rights – has been truly knocked! Where is your gite? May I please email you for more information? In the meantime, thank you very much for finding us again, and thank you very sincerely for your support. We are so grateful for all the support we receive, that’s what keeps us going. 🙂 Warmest regards, Chrissie and family

      • browneyes

        March 26, 2013 at 12:21 pm

        Hi Chrissie

        Yes, of course you can email me but I’m not sure how to give you my address without making it public!!! You’ll have to guide me!!

        The “gite”, well granny annexe really, is just next door to me in SW Haute-Vienne. On the border of 87 and 24. I’ll tell you more in the email if you want.

        Until then, my prayers are with you all.


      • hobosinfrance

        March 26, 2013 at 12:32 pm

        We are currently in the Haute-Vienne, just outside La Souterraine, on the border of 87/23! I will email you as soon as I finish teaching grandson at 4.30pm. I have your email address, it shows only to me through your response , one of my security requirements. You would not believe how much spam my blog posts attract, lol! E-see you soon. Thank you, Browneyes, very much. C and family xx


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